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| 125 | 08/02/07 |
The Crossrail Action Group would like to wish Ron Treslove well after his recent spell in hospital. Ron is a strong supporter of all that we are doing and has always made every effort to lend his support in person when possible and he is a regular contributor to our message board. In the early days of our campaign Ron used his newly found computer skills to help us with our research into the Crossrail plans. It is good to know that he is making a good recovery with the love and help of his wonderful wife and family. Keep it up! |
Barbara Smith | |
| 124 | 14/01/07 |
Hello. Just thought that I would make a
quick post. You've probably forgot me by now, its been such a long time
since I last commented. I hope everyone is o.k and had a lovely
Christmas and a very Happy New Year, lets hope its a good one! keep in
touch. Tyler :) C.A.G. Reply: Of course we haven't forgotten you Tyler! You're fab pictures are still on the Gallery page of the website! Thank you very much for your cheery post, we love to hear from you! |
Tyler Lazarus | |
| 123 | 24/12/06 | Happy Xmas to everyone and may we see the end of Crossrail in this coming year, then we will have something to celebrate for ..cheers | Ron Treslove | |
| 122 | 13/09/06 |
I was a regular walker on Westlands playing
fields but access has been fenced off after all these years. Does
anybody know why and whether it's temporary or permanent? Many thanks. C.A.G. Reply: One of our committee members has approached the council about this and was informed that the fencing would be permanent. The reasons given were some dog walkers not clearing up their animals mess (obviously playing fields by their very nature are used by children) and concern that motorcycles, currently being ridden on the Westlands Rough will be taken onto the playing fields, consequently churning them up. Yet again, a case of the few spoiling the enjoyment of the many. |
Susan | |
| 121 | 31/08/06 |
I am in the process of buying a house in
Beechfield Gardens and have just found out about the Crossrail
development planned. Is the planned development still going ahead? Should I cancel my survey and look to buy a house elsewhere? C.A.G. Reply: We can refer you to the Minister's Statement on Crossrail's proposal to amend the Crossrail Bill which will include a new provision to relocate the proposed depot at Paddington and Ilford. This is the most official and up-to-date information available at this time. It is not our place to advise you as to the purchase of a property in the area but we can tell you that we are optimistic that the revised proposals will be adopted in view of the monetary savings and less devastating environmental effects. It is also worth pointing out that Paddington and Ilford are established depots already and wherever possible CLRL would be directed to use established areas rather than breaking new ground. In addition to this we can confirm that the area of land between Beechfield Gardens and Sandgate Close will definitely not now be required by Crossrail at any stage. |
Michelle | |
| 120 | 26/07/06 |
I was very surprised that LBH put their
article about the current Crossrail news right at the back of the Living
in Havering newsletter that all households receive. It made me feel that
they were almost disappointed that Romford and Brooklands may be spared!
Do you have any idea on how long it will be until we receive any
concrete news on the change of location? Many, many thanks for all of
your hard work.
C.A.G. Reply: Many thanks for your message board submission. I am unable to comment on the Havering publication as I haven’t received one yet. We have certainly received the full support of Council Leader, Michael White and have enjoyed a good working relationship with Havering Council Planning Officers, although it has to be said that they have had to work on the assumption that the depot would go ahead and so our contact with them has been more connected with effects during construction and mitigation. It would be interesting to know who writes and compiles these publications and what criteria are used for order of importance. We have addressed other points of your query on our homepage. |
Sue Fendt | |
| 119 | 21/06/06 | Well Done C.A.G - all your hard work, blood, sweat and tears have paid off. As a former resident of Beechfield Gardens, I know first hand how many man/woman hours go into keeping a campaign going. The whole community owe C.A.G a great debt for fighting their corner. | Denise Warwick | |
| 118 | 18/06/06 |
Lets hope that the Crossrail Select
Committee see sense and follow Derek Twiggs' proposal to move the depot
to a more suitable location. Also let's not forget that its not over 'til the fat lady sings, so keep fighting everyone until we know for sure its not going to be located here! In the meantime I would like to thank all those at C.A.G who tirelessly fight the cause on our behalf, and whose efforts are much appreciated. Thank you! |
Keith | |
| 117 | 17/06/06 | Just a note to say that Romford Labour Party welcomes the news that Romford is no longer the preferred option for the Depot. We congratulate you on a well structured, informative and well run campaign. Well done! | Romford Labour Party | |
| 116 | 06/06/06 | Let's all keep our fingers crossed about the latest bit of news! Thanks C.A.G for keeping us up to date on what's happening. | Sue | |
| 115 | 24/03/06 |
I just wanted to say many thanks for to all
of you at CAG for all of your hard work regarding this issue. It is much
appreciated that you keep us up to date and work so diligently to try
and save us from the implications of this project. Keep up the hard
work. Hoping to see you at the quiz night. C.A.G. Reply: Thank you for your kind words, they keep us motivated! As for the quiz night... let the battle commence! |
Sue Fendt | |
| 114 |
Hi! Where exactly do you think the process
is today? Thanks C.A.G. Reply: Hi Jason, Crossrail is now at the Select Committee stage. It will take up to 18 parliamentary months to complete during which time the Select Committee will have to sift its way through around 350 petitions and listen to the evidence and cross examination of all petitioners. As I understand it the petitions will be heard in ‘blocks’ and at the end of each ‘block’ the committee will announce it’s findings. We expect this area to be heard any time from April onwards. I spoke to a Mrs Liddiard on the phone today and I assume that this is not coincidence and that you are related. It was only after putting the phone down that it dawned on me that the name is very familiar. I wonder if it is the same Mrs Liddiard who was a lunchtime assistant at Crowlands a few years back. Mmm, small world? |
Jason Liddiard | ||
| 113 | 17/01/06 |
Your reply to Mr Newman is absolutely spot
on! He is obviously very ignorant, in the true sense of the word. Keep
up the good work C.A G. There are lots of us out here still supporting
you.
C.A.G. Reply: Thank you Sue. |
Sue | |
| 112 | 15/01/06 |
It is sad once again, that the Nimbys are at
it again, against the greater good. Instead of fighting against this
project you should be supporting this vital scheme. The South East
region competiveness has been handicapped with delays for too long, we
need copy Paris and Berlin and complete these vital transport links so
that people can easily get to better paid jobs.
C.A.G.
Reply: I too am sad that yet again someone who will be unaffected by
the depot development sees fit to attack us without actually taking the
trouble to read our website properly. If you take the trouble to
read CAG's aims and objectives it will soon become clear that we are not
trying to scupper the whole Crossrail scheme, far from it. We are
attempting to prove that there are alternative sites for the 24 hour
train maintenance depot, that either already exist or that could be
built in areas where it would affect fewer homes. The proposed
development for Romford is logistically difficult, leaving engineers to
have to come up with expensive designs, whereas to use other more easily
accessible or existing locations, would save the Crossrail scheme money.
It seems a shame that it has become fashionable, and I must say boring,
to use the phrase NIMBY so readily, yet unfashionable to care about
one's home, family and environment. Please read with more care. |
Nicholas Newman Editor
Oxford Prospect |
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| 111 | 20/12/05 |
I would like to take this
opportunity to wish my colleagues on the C.A.G. committee a very Happy
Christmas and a healthy and happy 2006. We have come a long way in the
last year and have found strengths we didn't know we had. We have
supported each other in a way that is quite amazing, as we have known
each other for a relatively short time. It has been quite a surreal
experience and one that isn't over yet. So, have a good rest over the
holidays all, and I look forward to seeing you all in the new year. Our
thanks too, to those of you who deliver our newsletters for us. You are
a much needed source of support. Crossrail here we come! Barbara.
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Barbara Smith | |
| 110 | 10/10/05 |
I have been looking at the 358 petitions
against Crossrail and it has amazed me to see how many people have put
pen to paper on this very important issue. If anyone has got the
time to read these, its very worthwhile. I know it makes quite
heavy reading but it's eye opening. Let us all hope and prey that
the select committee take a lot of notice in all this hard work that all
the 358 petitioners have submitted. C.A.G. Reply: Thank you for your message. We too have found the many petitions very interesting and it is amazing to see who they have been submitted by. To read the petitions please visit Petitions Against Crossrail on our News and Info page. |
Ron Treslove | |
| 109 | 28/09/05 |
I heard a report last week saying that work
on Crossrail has been delayed by at least a year and that there is now
pressure for any works (should the funds for the project ever arrive) to
be delayed until after the Olympics in 2012. Have we heard anything
along these lines? C.A.G. Reply: Hello and thanks for your enquiry. I too, heard the report on funding last week. It was a brief mention on the BBC London news and they said that the review in to local government funding has been delayed until the end of next year. Ken Livingstone has always maintained that a decision in to how much funding for Crossrail can come from local government cannot be made until after the review. The report did say that it could put the project back by 12 months but I would not be so sure about that as funding is being sought from other sources too and I wouldn't imagine that local governments would be expected to stump up anywhere near the £15 to £16b cost (as stated by the Transport minister at the second reading of the Bill). You also mention the Olympics. I have read an internet article (sorry, I can't remember where now) that said that Norman Haste, who was Crossrail's CEO until this spring, has made a suggestion that Crossrail should be postponed until after the Olympics. A recent article in the Yellow Advertiser shows that Roger Evans, GLA representative for Havering and Redbridge and Chairman of the Transport Committee at the London Assembly, agrees with this. Do they know something we don't? I would like to point out that any postponement of the scheme will not necessarily mean that Romford is saved from the Crossrail Depot. A procedure called 'safeguarding' has been adopted by Crossrail. This means that any area of land they have included in the Bill, cannot be built upon or significantly altered, without consultation with Crossrail - in case they get the go ahead in the future. For example, they wouldn't be too pleased if an area they wanted to use had blocks of flats built on it - imagine the amount it would cost in compulsory purchase orders in the future - so they 'safeguard' their interest by ensuring that they are consulted on any project that may affect their plans. I'm sorry I can't be more positive about this. Although I have to say that the cost of the project has doubled from £10b (2002 first quarter prices) to £15b - £16b at current prices - that is a 50%+ increase in three years. If the cost continues to increase at the same rate, that would mean at least £22b by 2008, £33b by 2011 etc. The whole thing starts to take on horrendous proportions doesn't it. |
Captain Beefheart | |
| 108 | 20/07/05 | Regarding the Crossrail debate in Parliament 19th July 2005. I would like to say thank you to Andrew Rosindell MP for Romford, for putting across so well the case regarding the Crossrail Depot that Crossrail propose to build in Romford. Yes, we all know its in the wrong place except Crossrail. Please, Crossrail, take another look at the North Pole Depot Site in West London. This is being be vacated by Eurostar in 2007 and if Crossrail use it this will save taxpayers £430 million pounds and Romford from unnecessary construction and 24 hour maintenance noise, oss of Green Belt, Football Pitches and a Depot 15 metres tall in the middle of a residential area. Other MP's are at long last now waking up to the fact that this railway is being built in the wrong place. The logical route is via the new Thames Gateway development where all the houses are going to be built. Lets all hope that Crossrail stays a Ghost train on a Phantom track for Romford's sake. | Alan Clarke | |
| 107 | 19/07/05 |
I am most impressed on how Andrew Rosindell
put our case across in the House of Commons this evening. I am not
a political man, but I think he has done us proud today. Also that
he mentioned our website address, well done! Need I mention about
what the MP for Ilford was saying? At first he was saying how very
much his constituency was going to be very much affected by the noise,
dirt, lorries etc all night long and at the end of his speech, he
was all for Crossrail. How can he be so two faced? If I
lived in his constituency, I would be after him to retract his words or
retire. Again, well done Andrew! Let us all hope that they will
rethink about using Romford as a depot.
C.A.G. Reply: Andrew Rosindell certainly did do us proud and we thank him very much. It was remarkable to see just how many MPs from other constituencies were against aspects of the bill. A few words of support, from John Cruddas MP (Barking and Dagenham) for the C.A.G. members of Chadwell Heath, were gratefully received. Thank you for your message Ron. |
Ron Treslove | |
| 106 | 07/07/05 |
Replying to posting 103, I often walk across
the 'field' with my daughter. Recently we saw a robin, a wren, a pied
wagtail, and believe it or not, we saw two mallard ducks in the tiny
stream. They were probably only resting there, but it was so lovely to
see. It will be terrible if we lose this wonderful little wildlife
reserve in our midst. C.A.G. Reply: Thank you Susan, it is wonderful that Romford is home to such diversities. |
Susan | |
| 105 | 24/06/05 | I have just got onto the online message board and read what Mr James Cooper said about Mr Gambrill: it's words out of my mouth and he couldn't have put it better. Also, he must have read that compensation was also talked about. I know it's early times to talk about such things, but if it's alright for our Brentwood neighbours surely it must affect us in our town. The most important thing though is that we do not want this Crossrail under any price. | Ron Treslove | |
| 104 | 19/06/05 |
I live in Romford and have recently become
aware of the work that is proposed by Crossrail in Brentwood. It
has been said that 35 families have to be temporarily removed from their
homes for up to 7 months because of the work that will go ahead. Bernard Gambrill has twice in two weeks been to talk to the Brentwood residents about this upheaval. However when it comes to the affected Romford residents he refuses to come here and personally talk to those affected. Does this show that he cannot be bothered to talk to any of the people that his scheme will affect? Evidently not. Or does this show the extent of the fear that he has, knowing that he cannot as easily placate those who will suffer 6 years of disruption and construction work in Romford, which is a little different to 18 months that the people of Brentwood will suffer? My sympathy goes out to the Brentwood residents, but how lucky they are that Crossrail have taken the trouble to send the 'big guns' down to meet them. C.A.G. Reply: Thank you very much for your message, it's nice to hear from you. You make many valid points here. |
James Cooper | |
| 103 | 16/06/05 |
In reply to post 102, it's lovely to hear
that the boys were able to enjoy the wildlife on Westlands Rough.
It's important that our young generations learn to value our natural
environments, something that organisations, such as Crossrail or our
dear 'Red Ken', are trying to prevent. This is a great shame as,
as our 'areas of natural interest' are being taken away, there are
becoming fewer and fewer chances for such moments of appreciation to
take place. C.A.G. Reply: Thankyou for your submission Mr Arnold. It's lovely to hear from new people. We agree with you; should Crossrail take Westlands Rough, future members of the 10th Romford Scouts will not have the opportunity to enjoy it as those before them have. |
Mr G Arnold | |
| 102 | 14/06/05 |
12 boys from the 10th Romford St Andrews Scout Group (Beaver Pack) based at St Agnes Hall, Jutsums Lane, Romford visited Westlands Rough tonight (14th June 2005) as part of their environmental awareness. Although the weather was overcast the boys were able to see the many types of trees and plants that occur on Westlands Rough. Upon returning to St Agnes Hall all 12 boys were presented with Explorer Badges for their uniforms. Many Thanks to the 10th Romford St Andrews Scout Group for their continued support. C.A.G. Reply: Indeed, thank you to the group for showing their support. We hope you all enjoyed discovering the large amount of wildlife that lives on Westlands Rough. |
Alan Clarke | |
| 101 | 10/05/05 | Well done to all those who took part in Saturday's Football Match. Despite being battered by the horrible weather, everybody still managed to enjoy themselves. Perhaps the next match could be C.A.G. against a team from Crossrail, then we could sort the 'Men from the Boys'. I know who my money would be on!!! | Denise Warwick | |
| 100 | 08/05/05 |
Thank you very much to organisers of the
football match yesterday. It was great fun and for a worthwhile
cause, and I look forward to doing it again some time. C.A.G Reply: We're very glad you enjoyed the match! Hopefully we'll organise another match in a few months. Thank you for coming and showing your support. |
A very achy player | |
| 99 | 06/05/05 | As a CAG member I know we have & will always welcome 'POSITIVE' support from any organisation who can help us in our plight. Our membership spans two constituencies involving two MPs from two different political parties. We have tried very hard to keep the campaign balanced as a group which has also resulted in dialog with other parties & organisations. We are always looking for new members - anyone wishing to join us will be made very welcome, & they will see at first hand the way we work. CAG members all have a least one thing in common - we are a group of ordinary residents concerned about the effect a large train depot will have in Romford, Chadwell Heath & the local area. | Clive | |
| 98 | 05/05/05 |
I am addressing submission
97. You are correct in saying that C.A.G. is a non-political group.
We are a group of residents who came together to fight the building of
the Crossrail Depot and related development in Romford. In most
cases members of the committee did not know each other prior to starting
the action group. We are a diverse group of people and the law of
averages says that our own political views must also be diverse.
We do not discuss our politics with each other as it is not within our
remit. However, we do need to use our politicians both in the London Assembly and House of Commons as they often carry more weight than we do. For example we have made contact with members of the Green Party, Liberal Democrats, Conservatives, Labour and UKIP at the London Assembly. In addition to this we have had support from Jon Cruddas, who was Labour M.P. for Barking & Dagenham and Andrew Rosindell who was Conservative M.P. for Romford (neither election count is in at the time of writing this). All of these people have been elected to their positions by 'us' and are paid to work for 'us'. Margaret Mullane, Labour candidate for Romford has expressed her support for our campaign through the local press. To enter into a debate as to who is lying would not be conducive with our non-political stance and I am sure that all of these people feel that they have supported us within the confines of their positions. The Crossrail Action Group |
C.A.G. | |
| 97 | 05/05/05 |
I know that C.A.G isn't meant to be
political but the main parties are both sending out literature about
their position on Crossrail and I don't know who to believe! I don't
want Crossrail in Romford but the Labour and Tory MP are both saying
that the other party is lying. Who do I believe? C.A.G. Reply: Please see submission 98. |
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| 96 | 18/04/05 |
Although I don't know much
about the C.A.G,. I worked with Roger closely for 11 years. He was a
fellow Union officer and a truly conscientious
man. It was a pleasure knowing Roger and all
his fellow workmates at Hatfield were truly shocked and saddened when we
heard the news last Tuesday. Our thoughts go to Kim and Katrina at this
time, and I know that Roger truly doted on his little girl as we were
always fixing his pc for him. Not often you see several grown men around
a pc trying to load Barbie games but he got us doing it. |
Rick Jewell |
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| 95 | 17/04/05 |
May I just add that I am so glad that you mentioned Roger Jenkins on your message board. Those of us that knew him are just so shocked and saddened by his tragic death. Roger was a good kind man, and a gentleman, someone who really cared about the things that affected us, and he was prepared to stand up for what he believed in! We are all going to miss him terribly, a good neighbour , friend and colleague. Deepest sympathy to Kim and Katrina. |
Susan Goldman | |
| 94 | 16/04/05 |
Very sad news concerning Roger. A community-minded man, his help with CAG was typical of his giving-nature judging by the comments of others who knew him. Pauline & I are thinking of Roger & send our love & healing to his family. He will be sadly missed. |
Pauline and Clive | |
| 93 | 15/04/05 |
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The C.A.G. Committee | |
| 92 | 15/04/05 |
We have contacted both Barking and Dagenham and Havering councils with regard to the message board submission about fly tipping on Westlands Rough. To date we have heard nothing from B&D, but Havering have been quick to reply, saying that the matter has been passed to Area Liason Officer, Malcolm Hubbard. Let's hope the matter is dealt with speedily. |
C.A.G | |
| 91 | 12/04/05 |
I've just got back from walking the dog over Westland's Rough (Tuesday 12th April) and found that some lowlife has started dumping household rubbish (an old wheelbarrow and two green carpets) on the footpath leading from Southern Way, this wasn't there on Monday Morning. This is really going to look good when the "Crossrail Action Group" has referred to it as "an area of Natural Conservation Interest and houses hundreds of species of plant and animal". If this carries on you may as well hand Westland's Rough over to Crossrail on a plate. C.A.G. Reply: Thank you for letting us know. We will try to find out who is responsible for clearing the rubbish on this particular piece of land. As Westlands Rough belongs to Barking and Dagenham Council, we will get in touch with them. |
Dave |
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